Tuesday, June 21, 2005


The Press Press is trying to make a big deal out of a photo that shows Robert Horry with one arm raised and his other hand holding his crotch.
The Freep asks is Horry dissing fans?
The fact the paper asks this question is further proof it is out of touch with athletes and especially its younger demographic.
Let me help the paper. This is Horry's way of celebrating his game-winning three-point shot. He is telling the world "I am the man."
It is a macho hip hop way of celebrating his accomplishments. Now is it classy? No. But this is done so many times on the playgrounds of America it is not funny. This is really no big deal except for editors who rarely make it out of the building. They think it is a big deal because they don't even know what their kids do when they are out in the playgrounds or even the malls.
Young boys walk around the mall grabbing their stuff. This I admit I do not understand. It is like they want to keep control of things or they want to show people what they've got.
Grabbing your crotch is like the new age peace sign.
All the Free has to do is send one of its photographers to a mall and with in a half hour they could have a dozen picks of some dude walking with his hand on his crotch.
It makes no sense, but what does today?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yet another worthless blot of drivel on this site.

Mark Silverman

9:48 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Horry is a punk for doing it. He's in his 30s, NOT HIS TEENS.

Hey Terry, I just saw that Darvin Ham's wife got probation for hitting him over the head with a wine bottle back in March. Are they still together? I noticed she was not mentioned in a recent News article about Pistons' wives with the lovely Wallace wives and Lindsey's wife. His mom was in there instead.

I know it's a private issue but can you shed any light on it?


9:51 AM

Blogger MortyCrass said...

I don't know about all of you, but I just care about the basketball...I wasn't into Jordan's tongue waggle, and I don't like to read into athlete's behavior, because most of them really aren't that brilliant, apart from being able to put a ball in a hoop at a higher rate than the rest of us.

But I'm kind of simple that way... I like vanilla ice cream, American cars, American pussy. I don't need the media and the analysts to tell me what I'm watching during the game... if Tim Duncan misses five free throws down the stretch and the game-winning tip, it's no big deal...I knew he was a human being long before the media was telling me and you that he was GOD disguised as a power forward.

Same goes for Horry...he's really not as good as he was made out to be yesterday (think McDyess completely abusing him every time the ball went to him), and he's not a villan if he intended to make a gesture.

If the Pistons aren't sufficiently motivated already, a "crotch grab" isn't going to be the tipping point for their emotions, people.

10:19 AM

Anonymous Lou said...

I grab my crotch whenever I post something really insightful here.

11:45 AM

Anonymous Lou said...

Of course, I'm not grabbing it now.

11:45 AM

Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

Funny how people take offense to certain things when in reality they are such an insignificant part of it.

I liken this to the stupid reaction to Ron Artest lying on the scorers table.

If you were offended by that, I can't imagine what you thought when the president lied to America and took us to war.

Sadly, I think about 50% of America didn't find that offensive but they probably are appauld by Horry or Moss "acting like" he is mooning the audience.

Let Horry grab his package and move on.

12:29 PM

Blogger KG said...

It is these types of articles that really ruin the credibility of our fine paper.

Mitch Albom

12:34 PM

Blogger WTFDetroit.com said...

People are definitely making too much of this. It's gamesmanship, nothing more.

Horry has been saying and doing all the right things lately, I don't have a problem with a guy that does his job and does it when it matters most.

Nice comments from "Bob" re: The D...


Horry Is a Motor City Fan


Detroit has earned a reputation for having some of the rowdiest fans in sports, which was magnified following the brawl earlier in the season. But Spurs reserve forward Robert Horry said they haven't had a poor reception in the suburbs. "People are always looking at these fans because of what happened with Indiana, but they've been great. We've been walking around and they've been treating us well. I had my appetizers taken care of. I had my dinner taken care of. They could be setting me up, though," Horry said with a laugh. "They haven't been harassing me at all. I guess it's because I used to be a Piston a long time ago -- for two days."

The Houston Rockets traded Horry to the Pistons in exchange for Sean Elliott in 1994, but the trade was rescinded because Elliott had a chronic kidney ailment. Horry has gone on to win five championships since then.

12:54 PM

Anonymous Nathan said...

Who cares?

I realize that a lot of people act stupid, but if Horry wants to grab his junk and point to the sky, whatever. He's not hurting anybody.

1:21 PM

Anonymous Brian said...

So what, the guy has balls...Maybe Sheed will find his tonight.

1:31 PM

Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...


Speaking of out of touch. I can't believe the NBA Players union caved on an age limit.

Was that really a deal breaker. Why age 19 was that a compromise?

I think it sucks and regardless of what Stern says there is a racial element involved.

3:00 PM

Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...


Evidently Sheed left his in the regular season.

3:03 PM

Anonymous Nathan said...

Clearly, the age limit will affect blacks more than whites, for the obvious reasons. I don't think that wanting an age limit was a racially charged decision, however -- it just came with a discriminatory byproduct.

At any rate, I don't agree with it. Everyone has the right to earn their living. We all know that if another major business turned people away based only on the fact that they weren't 19, they'd be buried in lawsuits.

I know it's simple, and is sometimes the ignorant thing to say, but I agree with it in this case -- if you're old enough to fight a war for your country, you should be old enough to earn a living/have a drink/etc.

3:50 PM

Anonymous J said...

I have no problem with the NBA instituting age limits. How is it any different than a company stating in it's requirements for a job that a Bachelor's degree and 'X' number of years of experience is required? How many people every day are turned down for jobs because they lack experience? Age limits are a way of requiring more experience before entering the NBA work force. Why can't the NBA say something like...in order for a player to enter the draft they need to have 2 years of college or like experience, i.e, NBDL, CBA, USBL, Europe, etc...

4:10 PM

Anonymous Lou said...

I guess I'm a little confused -- doesn't the NBA call technicals and/or fine players for taunting? Didn't Dikembe Mutumbo used to get in trouble for wagging his finger at people?

I'm not upset by what Horry did, and I agree with Terry that the Freep is making a mountain out of a molehill, but I'd like to know that the NBA has a consistent policy on this.

(Of course, if Horry had nailed that three, and THEN the ref called a technical on him and the Pistons sent it into a double overtime, it would've meant pandemonium in San Antonio.)

4:11 PM

Blogger billionaire said...

nathan and Real I am mixed on the age thing. On one hand I know it affects my people more than any other race. I also know that if we can sign up for war at 18 then why not be able to play a simple sport with a ball and net. However, I see how some parents look at their kid as a meal ticket. You got theses AAU coaches acting like agents taking money under the table. I am not saying that college is the end all be all let;s face it college players are getting paid and yes this includes Michigan and Michigan state basically I would say 40 to 45 percent of college players. But I just feel that experience can;t be replaced and perhaps it might force you to have a back up plan and educate yourself. I know you can go to college and still bomb out in the league or even die IE Len Bias but overall I think the experience can't do nothing but help. Like I said I keep bouncing back and forth. Also where do u draw the line what/s next a 15 year old being in the league. There was a stat that showed that most of of high schoolers actually faired better than those that attended college for a year or two go figure. I guess I will err on the side of education even though I know If I was in high school and had a lottrery draft gaurauntee I would probably jump as well. I do recognize other sports like tennis and gymnastics like them young but my people are not as adversly affected as basketball

4:52 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was no need to post that photo. The sports world antics from todays player is already f-ed up. What Horry dis was actually tame.
It's just sleazy journalism, but that's what I expect from a liberal paper like the Freep.

5:02 PM

Blogger The_Real_Right_Way said...

I think an age limit is totally different than requiring a degree and experience.

I could be a genius who graduated early, and got experience in a family business. Age is not holding me back. If the knowledge and experience are proven to be necessary to be successful it makes sense.

On the other hand there is no evidence that 1 or two additional years of basketball are required to play at the pro level.

The age limit is discriminatory and bogus.

5:10 PM

Blogger T Foster said...

about the age limit I knew the players were going to cave in. It is not a deal breaker. they wanted some extra cash and got it. I am not opposed to the 19 game limit. I guess I have a soft spot for the guys who leave high school and never make it. they need some protection. I actually have a solution. I will write about it later

10:21 PM

Anonymous Deeeetroit Basketball said...

Game notes:

Its halftime.

The good: We're only down by 1
The bad: Rip is being a major ballhog, and looks like he could maybe cost us the game again. He's not even running without the ball, he just stands there and asks for the ball, then bricks.

the good: SA has turned the ball over more.
the bad: Manu has more rebounds than any other Piston

Kinda bad: Chanucey's ONLY field goals are 3-pointers, those shots won't always fall unless you're Robert Horry, lol.

10:24 PM

Blogger Blog World said...

Look at a day when you are supremely satisfied at the end. It's not a day when you lounge around doing nothing; it's when you've had everything to do, and you've done it.
Lord Acton- Posters.

9:55 PM


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