Thursday, June 09, 2005


My people are already bored.
The Pistons and San Antonio Spurs have yet to play one second of the NBA Finals and my buddies act as if they are about to watch two mules plow the back 40.
These teams are not sexy enough for them because they play defense and run pick and rolls and win with big shots in half court sets.
I argue back that why must everything be a high wire act for us to be entertained? If teams are not running up and down the court as if their shorts are on fire, some of us are bored. This is one reason the NBA Finals will probably not draw high ratings. The Pistons and Spurs won't light up the score board like Dallas or Phoenix.
Too bad.
This will still be an exciting series any way.
Both teams have won titles the last two years. They have smart coaches, experienced rosters and they know how to break opponents down both mentally and physically.
Yeah, sometimes it might seem like a chess match out there. But you've got energy guys like Rip Hamilton and Tony Parker who can do run like their pants are on fire at times.
The difference is they do it smartly.
Maybe I am getting older but I don't need a car chase at every turn. Sometimes a slower unfolding drama is just as exciting for me. I know the conclusion will be spine tingling even if it takes a little longer to get there.
Let the games begin.
I can't wait.


Anonymous Brian said...


Do you ever sleep? Man, I see your posts times: 2:15 AM, 4:30 AM, 5:15 AM...

You're right it's going to be a good series, but are you going to be able to stay up to watch them since they start so late?

6:55 AM

Blogger T Foster said...

This has been my sleep pattern my entire life. I go to bed. Wake up early in the morning. Read and then go to sleep.
that is why you see early posts.

7:39 AM

Blogger the sports dude said...

For the past couple of years I have REFUSED to watch any Western Conference Playoff games. Why you may ask? Because that style of basketball is boring to me, unbearable to watch, etc. To me, this will be a better match up than last years Finals - this is the match up I have been waiting for.

The Phoenix teams, the Dallas teams, that style may get you the league scoring title as a team, but when was the last time a team like that was in the Finals? Give me a dog fight, give me a boxing match, let me see some blood and bumps and bruises. All you Western Conference people can keep that style, defense wins championships. Either way, defense will win a title this year yet again. Later.

Pistons in six, maybe seven.

8:32 AM

Anonymous The_REAL_Right_Way said...

I think people are underestimating San Antonio's ability to run. They actually have another gear they use from time to time. If they use it, it will be exciting.

What I don't want to see is the 5 minute score droughts that the Pistons often slump into. Many times these droughts don't have anything to do with defense. They just can't score for whatever reason.

Secondly, the coaching matchup may already be over. I think Larry Brown has made a critical mistake by not using his bench. He will need Carlos Arroyo and more importantly Ronald Dupree. In a possible 336 minutes of play in the last series Ralo Dupree has got 7 minutes of garbage time. I can't understand this.

I'm sorry, but Larry Brown is his own worst enemy. Case in point look at his lack of ability to identify and play talent in the Olympics. I'm not intrigued at all by the coaching matchup as we know what we will get from Larry.

Finally, why is Darko on the playoff roster? The only thing I can think of is that when you go into the playoffs knowing you are not going to use your bench, it doesn't matter who your 10th, 11th, and 12th player are.

8:35 AM

Anonymous dt said...

By your "people" do you mean your boys or your media colleagues? I think you must mean your media bretheren 'cuz I know your boys are smarter than that! ;o)

The media is going to have a field day because with the 2-3-2 format, the press will be in Detroit for a whole week straight. Think they won't be thinking woulda-coulda-shoulda about South Beach??!

These are the two best teams in the NBA. Period. I think it is being overblown that "San Antonio has shown that it can play any style." The Pistons have shown too that they can't beat teams about any way, too. Think Detroit would have liked to run Phoenix out of the gym, too??!

Gotta steal one in San Antone though because the 2-3-2 really favors the top seed as it is virtually impossible for any team to win 3 straight in the Finals - even with all 3 at home. Lower seed need to win 2 on the road to steal the NBA Championship, IMO, which makes it very difficult.

Just the way the Stones like it!

PS - Tell valenti that DT agrees with you and that Elden is a player! Otherwise, Shaq on Ben was kind of like me on Valenti in the post!!

PSS - Have you e-mailed tamaz back yet?? I think he'd like to do some bidness!

8:38 AM

Anonymous Brian said...

It's amazing that even after the Pistons dismantled the Lakers in 5 games last year, everyone is quick to pick the Spurs in a "breeze" of a series. All the writers for ESPN are making the Spurs out to be invincible. We all know the Spurs are good, but every team has its flaws. That's fine that everyone is picking the Super-Spurs to win it easy because we all know how our boys are when they're written off.

One more thing. This series hasn't even started and i'm allready sick of Ginobli. This will be the first time we see this much flopping since the Presidential race.

8:42 AM

Blogger T Foster said...

Sports Dude,
If you did not watch the Western Confernce playoffs you missed out. even though it was a short series the San Antonio-Phoenix match up was great to watch. I also enjoy San Antonio-Seattle. The sonics fought pretty hard in that series.

9:03 AM

Blogger T Foster said...

Real right way.
You are right. Brown should have used his roster more. I wish Dupree and others had more playing time under their belts.
As far as Darko the only reason he is on the roster is because he is the No. 2 pick of the draft.

9:06 AM

Blogger T Foster said...

I will say this. The Pistons did win all three games of the 2-3-2 last time against LA. In a strange twist the Pistons also won all three games in Portland in 1990.
And I dont care what mike says. Elden Campbell played a solid series againt Miami.

9:09 AM

Blogger T Foster said...

Come on you dont think Ginolli is going to flop in this series do you?
No way. LOL.
We might see him do move dives than an Olympic diver.

9:11 AM

Anonymous The_Real_Right_Way said...


I agree. Watching Ray Allen shoot the ball is a beautiful thing. That Seattle series was great. Also, Stoudimire is a force to be reckon with in this league. That Suns series was exciting.

But what can I say...I love NBA basketball. Including the so called "skill and finesse game" on the other side of the Missisippi.

9:18 AM

Anonymous The_REAL_Right_way said...


Get real.... Elden solid series?

I totally disagree with your assessment. Let's put it this way....he played better than Ben. That was the extent of it.

When you send a guy off the bench to stop a player by all means necessary, I guess one might conclude that Elden did his job in using his fouls and "slowing Shaq down."

9:23 AM

Blogger Ranmac said...

I'm kinda diggin' your blog, Terry. But here's a little constructive criticism. Don't treat the blogs like articles in the Detroit News. Shorten the length of the posts. Most are way too long for bloggers like me to read through. I use an aggregator to get multiple blog updates to my desktop. You're just one of many. Also, share the love a little. Link to other bloggers that have information that your blog readers might be interested in. I'm glad to see a major media guy like you using this new medium, however.

10:06 AM

Blogger Jack Fu said...

I’m not saying that Brown shouldn’t have used his bench a little bit more (but just a little bit: eight-man rotations are the norm in the playoffs, and we generally run about a 7 ½-man rotation, depending on how many minutes the tandem of Arroyo and/or some miscellaneous forward get), but for the love of David DeJesus, please explain to me why we “need” Ronald Freaking Dupree? Exactly what did he contribute to the team that got them to the 2-seed? What has he done to earn minutes in the playoffs?

10:06 AM

Anonymous The_REAL_Right_Way said...

jack fu...

My point exactly, Dupree has played in the regular season and has shown himself to be one of the most atheletic players on this team. This guy could be contributing in an important way but for whatever reason it's not about earning minutes.

In his brief opportunity during the regular season, while he had some inconsistencies, he has shown that he can play. Bottomline, you get what you invest in. LB has not invested any gametime experience in this guy.

That's a fact!

Is he going to be the difference in this series? Probably not, but for those that preach so much about the team approach that Detroit has, not one single individual will.

10:40 AM

Blogger said...

Hell yes this series is worth watching.

It amazes me how people who claim to know basketball can forget that the game is 50% offense, 50% defense.

There will be plenty of ball movement, crisp passing and sharing the ball in this series.

Those who choose to go into watching this series with a negative frame of mind will get what they are looking for, of course, the exact opposite is true as well.

If you are a "fan" that needs to see high flying uncontested dunks, guys slapping the backboard and throwing behind the back passes, then no, this series might not be for you.

But if you truly appreciate watching team basketball, complete basketball, you couldn't have drawn up a better matchup.

Game on.

10:50 AM

Blogger said...

^^^to that end...

Mejia's Take
"So these Finals are going to bore you, huh? Seriously? You consider yourselves NBA fans believing that nonsense? The Pistons and Spurs have proven to be the best teams over this NBA season, stopping the two teams with the best regular season records without the benefit of the homecourt edge.

They feature tenacious defenses and contrary to popular belief, offenses that can get up and down the floor and score in bunches when necessary.

Both teams can feature four guys in their lineup that can create their own shots, with the teams’ centers the lone exceptions. That versatility is what will make this championship round not only watchable, but enjoyable. Great coaches, great players, great systems. Great series. Expecting to be bored? Go watch a hockey game, then."

11:47 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pistons in 4.

12:34 PM

Blogger Jack Fu said...

Ah, "athletic." I forgot that Dupree can jump really high and dunk reasonably forcefully, attributes which have largely become the be-all and end-all for casual basketball fans in assessing talent. So he's athletic, I'll grant you that. I still don't understand why we "need" him against San Antonio, or why Brown is a bad coach somehow for not playing him earlier.

1:20 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am definitely looking forward to a good defensive series. Complete shooting blowouts are quite boring to me. I wish they weren't so late, but I understand you have to cater to the east and west coast markets. I would love to see the Pistons win again, but they need to step up a wee bit and not let the refs get to them as much. If they keep having the mental breakdowns like they did with Miami, it's not going to be as easy to come back.

-orginator of the "Heidi frames" at the bowl-a-thon

3:33 PM

Anonymous The_REAL_RIght_WAY said...

jack fu....

I continue to forget about the beauty of the two hand chest pass and the slow break.

You know those things the, "so called" basketball purest long for.

Forgive my desire to see someone who can run, jump, and shoot at the same time.

3:33 PM

Blogger T Foster said...

I agree that I too am sick of
Ginobili. But I dont think people are picking San Antonio in a breeze. Most people are picking them but I keep hearing how the teams are mirror images. People feel San Antonio is slightly better. I don't think that is a slight of the Pistons

4:35 PM

Blogger T Foster said...

I still say Elden Campbell was solid. I did not say great or outstanding. I thought he did a fine job of guarding Shaq.

4:36 PM

Blogger T Foster said...

I will take your critique under advisement. I sometimes write them longer because this is therapy for me. This is what I want to write for the paper and it is a way to relax me.
As far as links. I don't know how to do that yet. I am just a dumb writer. but a friend said he will show me

4:37 PM

Blogger T Foster said...

I may have overstated things by going to Dupree. I guess my point is I wish the bench were deeper and had more playing experience. I mean wouldn't it be great if darko could play?

4:39 PM

Anonymous Ghargan said...

Well said Terry. This is the best matchup possible for true basketball fans. We're going to see quality basketball played at the highest level.

5:43 PM

Blogger h bomb said...

I'm watching the game - we are playing great. Any Piston fan who "has to" bet against us for the sake of being smart is a dope. Are we so spoiled that we can't see how cool it is to be in this position? Root for your team! Have hope in the face of "reason." Pistons in 7 because I want to see every minute of it!

9:44 PM

Anonymous Pryceless said...

oh man!

TheReal RightWay, you are annyoing! Uh! and don't call me a homer either.

Elden Campbell was INCREDIBLE! The guy was probably the second best Piston in that series, Sheed and Rip we're great as well, but of course Sheed shows up some nights and doesn't others.


He had to pass it out everytime, or was forced into a 10 foot hook that he couldn't hit. Elden took him. Elden was a difference maker, plain and simple. He did his job, and did it very well. He took Shaq, Shaq can't do anything against him. Shaq also only made maybe 3 FT's because of Elden, no way Elden sent him to the line more than 4 or 5 times. No way. On top of that, we got some offense out of Elden as well. He also drew a couple fouls on Shaq, which was huge.


do you watch the games?

12:39 AM

Anonymous Rob V. said...

Don't shorten up your entries, T. Column-length blog entries aren't a bad thing.

Ugly start last night. Pistons have to get a split in San Antonio, or this thing is over. Sunday's game is HUGE.

7:47 AM

Anonymous The_REAL_RIGHT_WAY said...


I missed the allstar Elden Campbell in game 1 of the San Antonio series.

With Ben playing so bad again, I thought for sure we would see the powerful Elden Campbell show up in a big way in the box scores.

What happen?

5:32 PM

Blogger $$Pryceless$$ said...

ask Larry Brown. I don't coach the team dude.

Though when Elden has been in he has dominated, but he only plays against shaq really. Maybe we will see him in game 2.

His job was to stop shaq, not Tim Duncan, though I think he could guard Duncan and benefit our team if he got a few minutes here and there.

6:50 PM

Blogger T Foster said...

Not to be rude. But who is Elden Campbell going to guard in this series?
he is here for Shaq and no one else.

10:36 PM

Blogger $$Pryceless$$ said...

Naw thats cool Terry. I think he could guard Duncan a little bit, I mean granted that Jermaine O'Neal and Duncan are different players. Last year Elden did a good job guarding O'Neal for a few minutes here and there.

Now, if the Spurs used Nesterovic, then I say Elden at all

I'm not saying give him 12 minutes on Duncan, or even 8. Though a few minutes here and there isn't a bad idea. He could give us more than Arroyo did in game 1. Even though I think Los will bounce back.

Basically, I'm just goin at someone who was dogging Elden in general, the job that he did on Shaq was superb. I've never seen anyone dominate him that much as to where he could score on the guy once, in about 30 minutes of action for the entire series. I thought it was impressive, to say the least.

3:19 AM

Anonymous The_REAL_Right_Way said...

Maybe it's me, I'm just confused as to how someone can "shutdown" Shaq, who many consider to be the most dominant player in the game, but they can't find anyplace to employ Elden's defensive prowess in a Championship game.

I gotta believe that perhaps Eldens performance may have been over embellished by some Pistons fans.

3:52 PM


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