Wednesday, August 24, 2005

Is Sheed on the Trading Block?

The Pistons may not be done. Dale Davis might not be the final piece.
Rumors are circulating that the Pistons might break up their starting five by trading Rasheed Wallace to the Chicago Bulls for center Tyson Chandler and forward Andres Nocioni. It is a scary proposal because Chandler has had back problems and I don`t see the fire in him. I think Nocioni is going to be a good player. If the Pistons make this move it would solidify the future. Team President Joe Dumars has said he wants to have a contending team today with a link toward the future. Chandler would probably move into the starting lineup. But this gives them a bunch of young guys who might bond for the future.
Stay tuned. What do you think?

42 Comments:

Anonymous sportsfromA2 said...

I tihnk it's a good deal for the pistons- as long as the players are OK with it.

With 'Sheed making 15+million/season for 4more seasons, I would do it so we'd have a little more room for BigBen/Tayshaun.

Hoeneslty, I don't know much about any player, how good are they defensivly, and can they be good teammates?

7:52 AM

 
Blogger PERALES said...

Why should we break up a team that has had so much success?

I say we wait until the trading deadline to see how Chandler and Nocioni are playing before we make a major move like this.

8:03 AM

 
Blogger hitman said...

As much as I am dissapointed with the offseason so far, I still wouldn't make that deal. Adding another offensive liability on the blocks in Chandler is not what this team needs. It's best if Joe D just rides this out until the trade deadline and then assess where his team is at.

8:27 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terry- I haven't been able to find your articles on mlive.com. I saw your first introductory article there last week, but nothing since. Is the mlive thing not happening for you?

9:04 AM

 
Anonymous Brian said...

I don't know about this one T...Tyson Chandler is unproven...Nocioni is player that you hate if he's not on your team.

Although his numbers haven't been impressive, Rasheed brings so many intangibles to the table. He brought a swagger to this team and was that piece that put us over.

But you know Joe, he's always got something up his sleeve and never satisfied. In Joe D i trust. (I will be upset because my Rasheed jersey would be obsolete)

9:26 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detnews would not allow Terry to do weblogs on Mlive...conflict of interest

9:30 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So is this blog staying or going??

9:43 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rasheed's PER 48 mins...

20.5 pts, 11.5 rebs, 2.1 blocks


Chandlers PER 48 mins...

14.0 pts, 17.0 rebs, 3.1 blocks

9:49 AM

 
Blogger T Foster said...

I am afraid of change. It is risky but Dumars has said he wants to eye the future and see if he can have a seamless transition. It would be difficult, but lets see if he can pull it off.

9:49 AM

 
Blogger T Foster said...

I was told that MLive is competition by the Detroit News and that I can no longer write for them. You can find me here and at Sportsinferno.com

9:50 AM

 
Blogger T Foster said...

This blog is staying for now. I will let you know if I make a move. There could be an annoucement soon. I may be doing a national website column and I have already gotten permission from the Detroit News to do it. Stay tuned.

9:51 AM

 
Blogger Ian C. said...

Terry, you said Joe D has an eye on the future with this one, but isn't this a total indictment of Darko's inept play in the summer league? Would this be a consideration if the Pistons had confidence in Darko?

Or would the Pistons have signed Dale Davis?

10:27 AM

 
Blogger fl said...

Terry - have you heard rumors about this from something other than hoopsworld or hoopshype? This may be an internet hoax as some people in a Pistonstalk website were making it up to b=get traffic to their site.

10:42 AM

 
Blogger BLR said...

I don't see this happening for 2 reasons:

1. Nocioni is the guy that elbowed Prince last year and caused all the players to call him dirty, saying this wasn't the first time he was involved in a play like this.

2. Sheed is a big piece of the little scoring we have and Chandler will add more D and better inside rebounding, but certainly not scoring.

11:28 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sheed for a dirty Euro and a human goalpost? Terrible trade, Chandler has no body...how in the hell is he going to have a post game? He's nothing but a shot blocker

12:12 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's be serious... the Bulls would not make this trade.

I'm not saying that either Nocioni or Chandler are better than Wallace, not so, but Paxson also needs to look to the future and Rasheed won't bring about a much better level of contention for the team then they already have..... and Chandler's not going to a division rival, particularly the Pistons.

1:53 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cap wise the money wouldn't work. If Chandler gets his one year tender of $6.3M and Nocioni gets just under $3 someone else would have to be thrown in.

Chandler and Ben Wallace wouldn't fit well together on the court. They both thrive off the same kind of play and neither can step out past 15 feet. The trade wouldn't work for either side, because Rasheed Wallace wouldn't get along with Scott Skiles. (Nobody really does, but Rasheed can take it to another level.)

2:07 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i say, make the deal, this would be a great addition to the team, and they will have 2 big men in the middle.. reminds me of the twin towers in SA.. see what they did, and look what Big Ben and Chandler can do.. it would be a good deal overall, sheed is awesome, but how much more does he have in his tank?..

2:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd pull the trigger on this one. Hell, throw darko in if we need to.

2:29 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is absurd; there is NO way in hell chicago would ever send nocioni and chandler for wallace, and i'm positive that paxson has no interest at all in such a deal. AWFUL rumor; keep dreaming.

2:40 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terry, are you hearing anything about Earl Watson comign to Detroit? I always liked his game. The cat can play. As far as this proposed trade, I say we throw in Darko and Delfino along with Sheed for Chandler, Nocioni and Gordon. The Pistons backup athletic SF and another backup PG/SG with outside shooting problems are solved.

2:51 PM

 
Anonymous boomtown said...

I'm sick over this one but on some level it makes sense. Sheed was part of Brown's regime and Flip needs his own identity. By giving Flip a nucleus of young players to build around, there may be a real chance of the Pistons making a seamless transition from veteran loaded championship contenders to youthful and talented championship contenders...

2:53 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No way in hell this deal happens. Chandler for Sheed and something would make more sense. GM's in the league know that Tyson is a top defender in the league and is so young with tons to improve, Sheed is solid but old and costs too much. This is some pistons dream of a deal that will never happen!!!

3:03 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terry, I love your work and your blog, but this is a rumor from a website that absolutely cannot be trusted.

3:17 PM

 
Blogger Guerilla Pimpz aka Blitzkreig said...

Terry - you have to be proud that your blog is actually the reference point for Hoopshype.com! Nothing against your blog Terry, its a great thing you got going, but is hoopshype serious that they are actually posting this as reference?

As for the trade, it would be a good trade for both teams, Sheed would be a downlow scoring presence for the Bulls, while Chandler and Nocioni would give the Pistons the Defense, Rebounding and youth that they covet. Its a solid trade regardless....but c'mon Hoopshype, you can do better than that!

3:20 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off let me say I am a huge Miami fan and if this trade went through I would be scared for the Heats chances next year. Wallace (Ben), Chandler, McDyess and Davis would form and incredible power unit. Leaving Prince, Nocioni, Hamilton, Billups and Arroyo to do the scoring. This would instantly be the best defensive team for years and if Darko developed into something resembling a 2nd pick, this team would be a dynasty.

3:23 PM

 
Blogger technomaster said...

Yeah... this is ludicrous... but stranger things have happened.

The Bulls would really need to be in love w/ Rashweed in order for this deal to make any sense. I don't know why they'd want Wallace--- he's (relatively) oldish and has a history of being a pain in the neck. You'd think they'd demand the up and coming Tayshaun Prince thrown in the deal for good measure as well.

This trade simply doesn't make the Bulls better.

3:32 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terry--Chandler doesn't have the fire? That's all he has! Well, that and a 7-1 body and a lot of athleticism.

1. To the guy who talked about intangibles--these 2 guys are, along with Hinrich, the ball divers and charge takers on the Chicago team. Neither can be counted on to score as well as Sheed.

2. To the guy who said to trade Darko/Delfino/Sheed for Chandler/Nocioni/Gordon, are you crazy? They see Gordon as a possible superstar, why in the hell would they trade him anywhere?


3. If this trade we're to happen, it would be part of a sign-and-trade deal and how comfortable would we feel paying Tyson a near max contract? I wouldn't..

4:23 PM

 
Anonymous Chris said...

sportsfroma2: $10.6M this year, $11.4M next season. Then, $12.5 and $13.7M.

And, you probably wouldn't have anymore room. I read a rumor that Chandler's camp was looking for something in the way of $9M per year.

Chandler is a good shot blocker, active on the offensive glass, good banger. Nocioni is a banger (and dirty... makes Mahorn look like a choir boy).

4:55 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terry, I'm in the Windy City and this is disturbing news for all residents. Tyson Chandler's just 22 yrs old, yet he's posting numbers that are slightly above average for a polished bigman in this league (9 pts, 10 boards). He has yet to reach much beyond the surface of his potential. When the Bulls drafted this kid right out of high school, they sold the city on the idea of the future. Now the future is closer than ever, and just as things start to pick up for the Bulls, after a plethora of dismal seasons they... trade him for an aging star? Call me crazy, but it just doesn't add up unless the Bulls want to experience a redux of the Los Angeles Clippers on the East Coast.

5:05 PM

 
Blogger T Foster said...

Dont worry guys. As I stated earlier this one is not going to happen. I saw it and wanted to post it and see what response we got. But this is a no go. I am gong to over to my other post to respond over there.,

5:38 PM

 
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6:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you guys are seriously retarded. why would chicago ever accept this trade? as for tyson being unproven, well all i can say is that sheed is proven to choke. wow, you guys are pretty deluded. good deal, good deal, hope the players are ok with it! lol, morons.

9:05 PM

 
Blogger JayMan1969 said...

Not sure if this is working yet?

9:28 PM

 
Blogger JayMan1969 said...

Ok. Hey guys I'm a Bulls fan and I came across this site when I saw the rumor posted about the possible "trade."

I don't think there is a chance this is happening from the Bulls side. Chandler and Noc are the Bulls 2 best defensive players, both are considerably younger than Sheed and at this point have potential. Sheed will not get any better, has a huge price tag, and is not a superstar the Bulls need to take their team from a 1st Rd. bow out to a title contender.

John Pax will not make this trade. Especially, before he knows what he has in these young guys.

9:35 PM

 
Blogger JayMan1969 said...

Hey Chris:

I beg to differ. Noc is not a dirty player.

9:38 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guarantee everybody here, that Detroit would be RIPPING the Bulls off in this deal. Chandler "has no fire" is pure BULLCRAP. He is one of the MOST fired up players in the game. This would be a Grant Hill for Ben Wallace/Chucky Atkins part deux, and it would also favor the Pistons. If you haven't notice, Chandler is a younger, taller, more athlethic Ben Wallace. No way the Bulls would part with Chandler.

Noc "a dirty player?" I don't think so. He plays the game hard, ala Pistons of the late 80s/Knicks of the 90s. He is a heckuva player. No way does Paxson---who target Noc last yr as a FA, personally---trade Nocioni, period.

Again...I gurantee this TRADE won't ever happen. The Bulls DON'T NEED Sheed the Weed.

3:23 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

noc rocks!

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